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Re: Is Apt Dead?

Pgr 1257536233|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » Is Apt Dead?

Apt is not dead, but Apt development seems to be. It's hard to invest time into a dying platform, the motivation just seems to fade away… and the truth is that most straightforward enhancements to Apt have already been done; what's left to do is more complicated to develop, faces some tough technical challenges that would require some extra work, etc.

I guess that's where Pent left off, when there wasn't much to be gained from too much work… and the death of Palm OS just finished things off.

Of course, if you know programming, just go ahead and work on it - it's open source now.

I would love to know that even though Apt is coming to an end, the concept of per-app preferences and highly scriptable mobile devices would live on - but I seriously doubt that we'll be seeing freer platforms in the future. On the contrary, things seem to tend to more control to the device makers and service providers, less to the users.

I love several things about the Palm Pre, but it gives me the shivers to think of doing without Apt, NvBackup, etc…. things that multiply a platform's usability or reliability by an order of magnitude. Nobody should be allowed to build mobile platforms these days unless they included all these brilliant things that were done before on Palm OS!!! :-)

Sigh…

Re: Is Apt Dead?

Jerome (guest) 1257536146|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » Is Apt Dead?

The greatest thing about opensource is that anyone can contribute to a project. Should features be added or bugs be fixed, the whole community can participate, and make things better. This includes you. I've opened Apt because I found it to be a great product, it has helped me tremendously and therefore I wanted to give this back to the community, in the hope that it will help them as much.

I get the occasional criticism about not adding features to Apt, but in truth, it perfectly suits me as is, I wouldn't even know what to add to this outstanding piece of software. And if you have something in mind you would like to see added to it, well, the source code is directly downloadable, it's entirely up to you (and everyone) to make Apt better.

I wish I had time to invest in Apt, but other projects have a higher priority at this time, therefore, for the time being I'll be relying on the community to commit patches to Apt (which I will gladly add to the source tree) until I have time again to spend on this project.

Jerome

Is Apt Dead?

wordsfailme 1257530697|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » Is Apt Dead?

Is there any more work being done on Apt? The last we heard, Jerome Ibanes had taken the project over and there was a lot of activity on these message boards, but after months of waiting for a version update, the excitement has all but faded out completely. Does anybody know what's going on with this? I know that PalmOS is pretty much extinct, but Apt gives my Treo more functionality than I could hope for and the potential for improving it further is great. Let's hear some other users thoughts and opinions on this, eh?

Re: Apt 2.0

technical1 1251906508|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » Apt 2.0

Jerome,

I just had an idea, based on a long standing annoyance I've had w/Blazer or Web on my Centro.

It seems that if I inadvertantly press the Green call button while entering text, I get immediately escorted out of the screen for email / forum posting & get the contacts app running… since Apt does not have anything assigned to this hardware key, it might be nice if it could be included - if for no other purpose than to be able to disable that key in a given application (rather than including whatever amount of code it would take to use it as a trigger to do other things like launch apps, etc.) & Web / Blazer would certainly be the first place I'd use it…. I've lost so many emails-in-draft b/c I accidentally hit the Green phone h/w key….

Can Apt be made to do something like this?

Thanks in advance,

technical1

Re: getting Coordinates and other DA

dexMIlano (guest) 1246363561|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » getting Coordinates and other DA

much more confortable

thanks

and thanks for APT application!

dex

Re: getting Coordinates and other DA

Pgr 1246358344|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » getting Coordinates and other DA

In Apt, on the *Default* target, go to the "Buttons" tab.

Pick any Trigger you like to launch the Apt Menu, for example:

(2) Hrd3 | Apt | Menu

This would make the Apt Menu come up when you hold down the 3rd key for 2 seconds.

PS- about keeping time, if you use Nvbackup it has an option to synch your clock with some atomic clock on the Internet. This way you can schedule your nightly backups AND get your time right at the same time.

PPS- if you don't use NvBackup, you should. :-)

Re: getting Coordinates and other DA

dexMIlano (guest) 1246345374|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » getting Coordinates and other DA

more infos after a night of test.

On my treo 680 the 4th button arise the frequent-app-menu and so it is not available.
I didn't find where to change the default configuration for the apt-menu.

However i've found a very-hard-workaround.

Because the apt-menu:Getcoord is a DA you can install the DA launcher manager.
Unfortunately this ca be activated only using the "/" pen stroke that is not available on the treo keyboard; so I Installed Graffiti anywhere just to do it.
So, in any application (I need to integrate in APT) I pres the 1st button (default in GA) and I did the "/" stroke using the pen; doing this gesture the list of all DA appears and I can select GetCoord, then I press the button and the GetCoord popup window show me all information that I can type in the ad hoc field in APT.

As said a very-hard-workaround.
I hope the someone else will be able to find a much manageable solution.

By the way
I can confirm that on treo 680 the PhonOFF temporized function works very well, today I'll test a temporized function to align SNTP time using SNTP (a free application you can easiliy find on freewarepalm),
So I can definitively fix this stupid problem (Treo's clock is a little too fast).

dex

Re: getting Coordinates and other DA

Pgr 1246298632|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » getting Coordinates and other DA

On the left menu of this site, click "Tutorials and How-to's", then try "Getting ID's of Menus and Controls".

See if that helps, if not, come back here and ask for more help, I'll do my best…

PS - The "Apt Menu" is what comes up when you press the fourth button for 2 seconds inside any app except Apt itself (unless you have changed the default configuration).

getting Coordinates and other DA

dxMIlano (guest) 1246294229|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » getting Coordinates and other DA

Hallo to everyone.
I installed APT on my treo 680 and i think it si a very usefull application, but there is a thing i'm not absolutely able to solve:
how to retrieve the ID of a button/menu I've to tap in an application launched with APT or the coordinate to fire a tap over a control.
i.e. I didn't understand the sentence
"
You can use AptMenu:GetPoint in the target app to acquire the coordinate, …
"
Also the example didn't help me at all.

Could someone explain me this feature?

Thanks in advance

dex

Re: Tags and List Menu

technical1 (guest) 1245932327|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » Tags and List Menu

[[toc]]bman, just go into the screen where the tag is defined & tap on the circle to the left of the "Tag" line. A dialog will pop up & you will be able to view & edit the name. Just be careful. You could potentially ruin expected functionality if the tag is 'called' by any other reference in the Default -> Buttons section….

Hope this helps, technical1

Re: Tags and List Menu

bman2009 1245710250|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » Tags and List Menu

I am using a treo 755p and I have not been able to edit the tag name. How do I change the tag name?

Re: Settings lost after soft reset

countchocula (guest) 1244128084|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » Settings lost after soft reset

hmm, strange - the problem seems to have magically disappeared. if it happens again, i'll watch apt-db.pdb. thanks!

alex

Re: Settings lost after soft reset

Pgr 1244110183|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » Settings lost after soft reset

Sounds strange… I don't know an answer, but here are some paths of investigation:

Are you using the latest version of Apt?

Does this happen for all kinds of Settings, or only for some?

Have you tried watching the settings file, Apt-Db.pdb, to see when it changes date or size: before and after a reset, when Apt starts, or when the Apt UI starts?

Good luck.

Settings lost after soft reset

countchocula (guest) 1244048861|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » Settings lost after soft reset

Hi Folks,

My settings are always lost after I do a soft reset on my palm TX. Any idea what's going on here? Any way to fix this? I have it set for Apt to be disabled after a reset, but that shouldn't throw the settings away, should it?

Thanks,
Alex

Re: Mystery cntr button press?

wordsfailme 1243374595|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » Mystery cntr button press?

Increase "a":

*Default*
Wake / Apt / Var+ / a

…and about the 2 "CNTR" tags, it seems to work just fine that way. Apt will let you have duplicate tag names as long as they are not on the same screen. I've assigned different variable conditions to each one, so they are never called at the same time (which I assume would cause a crash, but I haven't tested it).

Here's some more food for thought:

*Default*
Side / Nav / Cntr
If I have the Side button trigger a Cntr button press, the keyguard goes away, and I do not have the 2nd Cntr button press phenomenon. However….

*Default*
Side / Apt / Call / (CNTR)

*Tags 1* - Tab "One"
(CNTR) / Tag / Nav / Cntr
…if I have the side button call a tag ("CNTR") that triggeres a Cntr button press, the 2nd Cntr button press occurs. I don't know how big of a help this is, but it seems like the Cntr button press is being triggered twice if it's being called as a tag as opposed to being called in the app profiles. Seems like a programming issue, so there is a chance that there is no lamen solution to this. Thanks for any help in advance!

Re: Mystery cntr button press?

videkatten 1243195989|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » Mystery cntr button press?

Interesting… I have a Centro though but I think it should work in the same way as on Treo.
First of all, thanks for the keyguard tips, never heard of it before.

When is "a" increased?

You have 2 tags named "CNTR" in the above post..

Re: Tags and List Menu

rnder 1243057246|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » Tags and List Menu

Edited the original post.
(I pasted the original post from notepad and some how the ">" lines were omitted)

Just noticed that with Blazer running scrolling the fore mentioned menu all text and icons in the menu vanish.

Palm T|X

Mystery cntr button press?

wordsfailme 1243017709|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » Mystery cntr button press?

I was struggling with this for a while until I gave up on it about a week ago. If I could get some assistance, it would be much appreciated.

Goal: I use the Treo side button to trigger a star menu (tag="SIDE") that basically acts as my pop-up launcher. In order to have the side button bypass the keyguard (I use KeyGuardTime+), I have created an if/else kind of situation:

*Default*
Side / Apt / Call / (CNTR)

*Tags 1* - Tab "One"
[a>0] (CNTR) / Tag / Apt / Var0 / a
& / Nav / Cntr /
& / Apt / Call / CNTR

*Tags 1* - Tab "Three"
[a=0] (CNTR) / Tag / Apt / Call / (SIDE)

Ok, so this setup works GREAT, except for one small problem. When I push the side button just after I wake the device up, the keyguard is cleared, but I then get a SECOND cntr button press just before my "SIDE" star menu pops up. For example, if I am in the Contacts application when I wake the device up, and push the side button, the keyguard is cleared, then the second cntr button press calls whichever contact is highlighted, and then my star menu appears.

I know that this probably sounds confusing, because it confuses the hell out of me. Let me know if you need me to clarify anything or if you have any idea of why that second cntr button press is occuring. Thanks in advance!

Re: Tags and List Menu

wordsfailme 1243015810|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » Tags and List Menu

…I think you might have left out part of your "hb4" tag. I see no reference to the list trigger (">") or the Email, ChronMemo, and Note Pad apps in the tag. Care to clarify?

Tags and List Menu

rnder 1242935556|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Apt / General Discussion » Tags and List Menu

Either I am doing something wrong or the following "may" be a bug.

Goal: create a multiple item pop-up menu when a hard button 4 is pressed

Create the Tag:

*Tag 1*
hb4/Tag/App/Web
>/App/Email
>/App/ChronMemo
>/App/Note Pad

Create the Button:

0/Hrd4/Apt/Call/hb4

the assignment works, but the icons for the Apps are shifted one down.
Web ~ no icon
Email ~ Web icon
ChronMemo ~ Email icon
Note Pad ~ ChronMemo icon

Interesting if I use the same Tag within a (*) star menu the icons line up.

Rick